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Phatbox / Keg software and support => Phatnoise Hardware Support => Topic started by: Pal369 on April 03, 2008, 01:32:52 pm
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Greetings, I have a 2002 Beetle with the Monsoon cassette tape radio, would like to replace with a new Radio with MP3 CD player. But, I also have a PhatNoise player attached, this radio must work with the Phatnoise player.
Is something like that available? called local dealer and the quoted me a $1000.00, WOW.
Thank you
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yea, it's called any Kenwood stereo
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Thank you, I will check out the Kenwood Radios.
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You'll need to find a Kenwood cable for your phatbox though -- check out the thread in buying-and-selling from the blitzsafe guy, he says he can make any cable
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Hi again, emailed Blitzsafe and no reply, so I called and was told by the receptionist, that they do not make anything for the Beetle or Phatnoise player. Is there anything else that might be available? Checked the Kenwood radios at Crutchfield and Model #KDC-MP635 has all those Changer Controls. Does anybody know if they would work with my Phatnoise Phatbox?
Thank for the help.
[Changer Controls: This unit is directly compatible with Kenwood changers manufactured in 1998 or later. If the changer has an O-N switch, the switch will need to be set to the "N" position. In addition to basic disc navigation features, this unit has the following changer controls: direct disc access (using the remote), direct track access (using the remote), track intro scan, track repeat, disc repeat, disc random, and magazine disc random. When connected to a CD Text capable CD changer or an MD changer, this unit can display disc and track titles for discs encoded with disc and track title information. The text information can be scrolled manually or automatically.]
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Any Kenwood HU that supports CD Changer Text will be compatible with the PhatBox, but you'll need to update it to Kenwood Firmware.
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Hi, thank you for your help, "Congratulation to your new addition to the Family" Is there a link for the firmware that I will need somewhere? Or can I download from Kenwood.
Thanks again.
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Thank you. Download my tools from the Hacking section, you can do a firmware update using these.
Link:
http://forum.phathack.com/index.php/topic,1291.0.html
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Oh, and if the box isn't hacked choose the option, 'Install non-hacked firmware', and as you are switching firmware choose the option 'Reflash box'
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Thank you very much for every once help, I'm shopping for a Kenwwood Radio and the availability is enormous, so many to choose from with so many options. Plus want to look for the best price.
You guys are great.
Thanks.
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I will need a (cable. connector, ???) to connect onto the Kenwood. The Monsoon connector was a sqaure with seven wires, the Kenwood outlet is round with ten female connectors.
What can I do?
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You need a Kenwood Keg cable, part # KHD-5L1. Google it and you should come up with some suppliers.
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Thank you, I googled it, found it, ordered it, and will wait for it.
Any hints on getting the Kenwood Radio with all those wires squeezed in to that small area???
Thank you
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The KHD-5L1 Cable will not fit, the Radio plug is fine, but the Phatnoise player. the Phatnoise has a square female connector while the KHD-5L1 CD end had a connector with round edges. I also tread pulling a cable with those connectors under the carpets, seats and all that stuff.
Is there something else available? Does anybody have experience with this type of units? Is there any body or place that makes cable converters (connectors)?
Thank you again
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Not sure where you're mounting your Pnoise, but I just ran the cable under the rocker panel trim and into the spare wheel well of my VW GTI. I pulled my rear set out, which helped with running the cable back there. More of an exercise in patience than technical know-how. There's a couple of pics I took on the first page of this thread: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2783033&page=1
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Thank you for your reply and the pictures are very helpful. But, two things I would have to change the plug on the Phatnoise unit which is mounted in the trunk and I do not have a plug to make the conversion with.
I did also ordered a "CONN Circular DIN 13POS male" connector, need advice on how to get solid connections on to the plug? Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
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I'm not sure what you're talking about... but the connector on the phatbox should match the connector on that kenwood cable.
The picture of both ends of the Kenwood KHD-5L1 cable is:
(http://www.phathack.com/Kenwood/Phatbox%20-%20Kenwood.png)
The connector pictured will fit on any and every PhatBox or Music Keg produced. If your cable doesn't look like that, something is wrong.
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Good Morning, thank you for the help, yes I know it's tough to explain what things look like. So I took pistures and will try to attach. I also have the "KHD-5L1" cable available.
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Wait a minute, I'm confused. Are you not trying to connect a Phatbox to a Kenwood stereo?
The one thing that all Phatbox cables have in common is the connection to the box. If the cable you received does not connect to your Phatbox at either end, it's the wrong cable. It sounds like they sent you a Kenwood to CD changer cable, which is not the KHD-5L1, and not what you need.
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I don't know what a KHD-5L1 cable should look like, but I will attach a picture of what I received. It will NOT fit my PhatNoise Player in my VW Beetle. I do have a round cable connector that will fit the Kenwood radio but I have no idea on how to get good solid connection to make things work right. Could Cut the KHD-5L1 cable and splice it according to the guidelines on this forum, but space is very tight to squeeze all those cable into that tight space in the Beetle dash board.
Any help and advice will be appreciated.
Thank you
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That is the right cable. The connector on the left in the picture should plug into your Phatbox, and the connector on the right into your Kenwood stereo. You should not have to do any splicing to get this to work.
Yet, you wrote that "it will NOT fit" your Phatbox. Do you mean the cable will not reach your Phatbox, or there is no matching connector to plug into in the back of the box? If it is the latter, can you show us a picture of the back of your Phatbox?
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I don't know what a KHD-5L1 cable should look like.
I posted a picture right above that showing you the ends of the correct cable which is identical to the image that you posted. Were you unable to view the image from my post for some reason?
That cable WILL work with a Kenwood HU and any type of PhatBox, it is the correct connector for the back... perhaps the back of your phatbox has been damaged somehow? In any case, a picture of that will tell us if you have some strange problem.... otherwise a better description of what your malfunction is would be good. mark's reply pretty much covered it, I just wanted to figure out why you couldn't see the image I posted for you of the ends of the cable.
I also have to wonder why you were posting images of the other Monsoon connectors... those are completely and utterly irrelevant, and cannot be used in any fashion.
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Good Morning Yes I would be interested, the big question: will it fir my Phatnoise player. I will attach a picture of the cable with plugs that are in the car now.
Thank you
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YOU CANNOT RE-USE THE OLD CABLE THAT WAS CONNECTED TO YOUR PHATBOX.
You MUST run a new cable ALL THE WAY from the phatbox to the kenwood head unit.
The pins used on the phatbox are not the same across different firmware.
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OK, I can do that, but I still need a cable that will fit both the Kenwood Radio and my Phatnoise player. The KHD-5L1 cable which was recommended will fit the radio but not the Phatnoise player. Is there a cable available?
Thank you
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Send us a picture of your 'phatnoise player' please. The cable you posted is the cable that fits the PhatBox. -- we should take this discussion back to your original thread.
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OK, hope something is available, a picture if the cable that is from my phatnoise player is a few post up.
Thank you again.
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The issue isn't the cable here, but your player. We need to see the player socket that the cable plugs into because the KHD-5L1 cable is absolutely the correct cable for connecting to a PhatBox.
It's possible you've got a modified box (not sure how) or perhaps a really early version of one that had different connectors....*shrug*
So please post a picture of your PhatBox showing the point at which the cable attaches.
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I don't think you quite understand, you need to REMOVE that cable fro your PhatBox and attach the NEW cable. There is no cable coming from the phatbox that you can use, if you cannot do that we need a picture of the back of your PhatBox with NO cables attached that have any way of being removed so we can figure out what you're talking about.
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Maybe this image will help you. The connection labeled "HEADUNIT" is where the cable plugs in. If your box doesn't look like that, send us a picture of your phatbox from the same angle. Disregard the DB9 serial connection, that's my addition.
(http://www.phathack.com/vw-back.jpg)
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Oh hey, THAT'S where that screw was supposed to go! lol
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Thank you, I feel like a fool, I never bothered to take the unit out of the car to check it out. Just removed to take a picture and I see there is a cable plugged in to the socket and that socket will fit the KHD-5L1 cable.
Thank you again to everyone for you help, support and suggestions.