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Title: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 21, 2009, 11:47:09 am
Per this post over in a different sub-forum:

I am working on a retrofit circuit board which will replace the one in the PhatNoise cradle and provide full compatibility with Windows 7 (and, presumably, Vista). I expect I'll be able to sell this board for between $35 and $50, depending on how many I make. I will publish the full specs (schematic, parts list, PCB layout, and firmware source) once it is completed, so that no-one will ever be stuck with this problem (of unsupported cradles) ever again.

This circuit board should also fit in the USB1 cradles, which will allow them to be updated to be useful, instead of doorstops. Even if you're running an OS where the USB1 cradle works, upgrading to a USB 2 board will greatly improve file transfer to the DMS (assuming your computer has a USB 2 port, otherwise the new board will still run at USB1 speeds).

I have a prototype up and running and have tested it with PMM (Music, not Media), PhatVoice, and the PhatHack DMS Tools.

That's sufficient for my needs, but I'm willing to go ahead and do a real PC board that will fit in the cradle, replacing the existing board. The same power supply used for the USB 2 cradle will work; the older USB1 cradles will likely need a replacement power supply as well.

Per my original post, I expect the complete board will cost between $35 and $50. I'd like to get an idea of how many people would be interested in purchasing one of these so I can make a decision on whether or not to proceed. I'm not asking for a committment to buy, just gauging interest.

For the techno-geeks here, the new design uses the Cypress Semiconductor EZ-USB AT2LP CY7C68300C. Here's a desktop snapshot with all of the relevant info (click on the pic for a full-size version):

(http://www.tmk.com/transient/new_usb_cradle-s.jpg) (http://www.tmk.com/transient/new_usb_cradle-l.jpg)

Edit - if there are any Mac users who would like to try a prototype and report back if it works on a Mac, I'd be glad to send you one of the 2 prototypes for testing. Note that you'll need to remove the drive from the DMS and install it on the prototype board for the test (the prototype boards don't have a DMS connector, only a mini-IDE one).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: gsedun on November 23, 2009, 06:28:08 am
Hi Terry - when will you be selling the circuit board for the DMS for Windows 7?

Garry
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 23, 2009, 06:55:49 am
Hi Terry - when will you be selling the circuit board for the DMS for Windows 7?

This will depend on the amount of interest I get - I'll need to do a rather sizable order (probably 50 pieces or so) of the PC boards in order to get the boards at a decent per-unit price (the board houses charge a lot for setup and then a smaller amount for each board). So I'd like to see interest in at least 10-15 completed boards. Figure 30-45 days after I send the order to the board house to get finished blank boards back, plus time to assemble and test them. Given that this is a rather simple board, I'll probably take the risk of going directly to the production batch of boards rather than doing a couple of test boards first. Most anything that would go wrong could be solved with a razor blade and wire - I wouldn't anticipate needing to scrap the boards and start over. Also, I haven't checked on the availability of the various oddball parts needed, like the connector that attaches to the DMS - some places will want a larger order for a shorter lead time, so this also depends on the level of interest.

In any event, this means we're looking at mid-January at the absolute earliest, and probably February as a more realistic date.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: jheyerman on November 23, 2009, 12:39:54 pm
Deleted - didn't see poll...
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: S80_UK on November 23, 2009, 11:51:55 pm
Given that this is a rather simple board, I'll probably take the risk of going directly to the production batch of boards rather than doing a couple of test boards first.
Rather you than me...   :P

Also, I haven't checked on the availability of the various oddball parts needed, like the connector that attaches to the DMS - some places will want a larger order for a shorter lead time, so this also depends on the level of interest.
Did anyone ever identify a source for the connector?  My recollection over the past 2 or 3 years is that this was never established (but I could be wrong, of course).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 24, 2009, 05:05:36 am
Rather you than me...   :P

;D

I'm reasonably confident, given that I have a prototype working with a normal 44-pin 2.5" IDE connector. So all I have to do is get the form factor correct and correctly pin the DMS connector.

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Did anyone ever identify a source for the connector?  My recollection over the past 2 or 3 years is that this was never established (but I could be wrong, of course).

I'm about 95% sure it is an AMP/Tyco product. I'm researching the exact part number and should have an answer in a day or two.

Worst case, I'll do the replacement boards with a "core charge" - once you get the replacement board and install it, you send your old board back to me for a credit and I re-use the connector from it for another new board. I have about a dozen assorted cradles here, which will be enough to get started.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: markbowen on November 24, 2009, 07:46:08 am
I have a prototype up and running and have tested it with PMM (Music, not Media), PhatVoice, and the PhatHack DMS Tools.

I'm interested, but could you also test it with Media Manager?
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 25, 2009, 04:47:03 am
I'm about 95% sure it is an AMP/Tyco product. I'm researching the exact part number and should have an answer in a day or two.

Well, I was wrong >:(

It is a KEL 8802-050-170S-F (http://www.kel.jp/english/product/Half_8800/8800.pdf).

Edit: Updated post with current part number and removed comment about part being unavailable.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 25, 2009, 04:50:01 am
I'm interested, but could you also test it with Media Manager?

I will. Note that Media Manager apparently blacklists certain drives (or has a list of permitted drives), so work-arounds may still be needed.

I could provide a version of the cradle that would always report the drive as one of the PMM-recognized drive models instead of the drive model actually in the cradle, but that might cause more problems than it solves. I certainly don't want to do that as the default behavior.

Edit: I REELY can't speel ;D
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on November 25, 2009, 07:42:16 am
Things are progressing on the software front. The prototype boards now identify themselves as "PhatHack Cradle" and have been verified to work on XP, Vista, and Windows 7:

(http://www.tmk.com/transient/phathack_cradle_named.jpg)

Who is the person to get official permission to use the PhatHack name? Sam?

What do you think this should be called, if not PhatHack Cradle?
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: markbowen on November 25, 2009, 12:18:10 pm
I will. Note that Media Manager apparenlty blacklists certain drives (or has a list of permitted drives), so work-arounds may still be needed

Anyone using a WD drive should not have this problem, as WD drives are "allowed."  However, with the 250/320 GB drives and the original cradle in XP, it is always necessary to first start Media Manager and then insert the DMS.  I'd be happy to have a cradle that is less fussy in XP, let alone one that works in Windows 7.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on December 07, 2009, 03:12:20 am
Just a FYI update - the connectors (which have the longest lead time) have been ordered (26 pieces) and should be here in 5 to 7 weeks.

While people aren't exactly trampling each other to vote in the poll, it looks like there's enough potential interest to proceed with a small batch of boards.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on December 09, 2009, 06:15:21 am
I'm interested, but could you also test it with Media Manager?

Note that Media Manager apparently blacklists certain drives (or has a list of permitted drives), so work-arounds may still be needed.

I could provide a version of the cradle that would always report the drive as one of the PMM-recognized drive models instead of the drive model actually in the cradle, but that might cause more problems than it solves. I certainly don't want to do that as the default behavior.

Ok, I tested the new cradle with PhatNoise Media Manager 3.92 under Windows 7 x64. It seems to work, or as well as PMM will in that environment, anyway. PMM needs to "Run as Administrator", so auto-play on DMS insertion is broken (it runs as a regular user and keeps telling the user to call customer service because items couldn't be inserted in the registry). I loaded 87 playlists consisting of 915 tracks which were 6.2GB in total size onto the DMS in this environment.

The DeviceDMS.dll file in PMM not only blacklists certain drives, but it also has a list of the USB device IDs of cradles it will work with. The new cradle doesn't have the same USB ID, since it is using a very different chip. So there's no point in having the new cradle report one of the blessed drive models, since a patched DLL will still be needed to deal with the device ID issue.

Here's a snapshot of PMM 3.92 loading files onto a Samsung 160GB drive in the new PhatHack Cradle:

(http://www.tmk.com/transient/pmm392.jpg)
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: VorTechS on December 09, 2009, 08:11:19 am
Terry, do you plan to run similar tests with PhatHack MM with your board, or would you like me to go through this?
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on December 09, 2009, 08:20:43 am
Terry, do you plan to run similar tests with PhatHack MM with your board, or would you like me to go through this?

I'll be glad to do it, but having the author (you) do it might add a bit more weight. We can see if that's needed after I do the basic tests.

Do you want to PM me with a place to download the code you'd like me to try?

There's also a new poll up over in the software section, to get a feel for what package and version people are running.

Also, for package authors or regular users who want to test complicated scenarios - I can hook up the new cradle to one of my systems and turn over control of the system to you for a specified testing interval at a mutually-agreeable date and time.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: VorTechS on December 09, 2009, 08:37:11 am
Sounds good, I'm not happy with the current TTS 'workaround' so I'm moving my speech routines over to using managed code which should mean no further issues with voice generation.  I'll drop you a PM when this is done, and tested with a link to the latest installer.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: Cyberman on December 12, 2009, 01:15:53 am
is this board ready yet? i think my board is dead.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac t
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on December 12, 2009, 01:20:34 am
is this board ready yet? i think my board is dead.

Nope, not yet. Best guess at this point is early February, assuming everything goes as planned (7 week lead time on the cradle connectors, only ordered once the poll achieved 10 positive votes).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Steveo369 on December 14, 2009, 05:00:44 am
I have two working USB2 cradles, but I'd like a bit better compatibility, as well as to help support the effort to hack the DeviceDMS.dll utility in PMediaM v3.92 so that we can get better drive brand compatibility.

I just finally got around to hacking my two PB's this weekend, and did a test new DMS with an old 40gb Hitachi drive I had lying around.  I'm currently contemplating shopping for some larger HD's to put into both DMS cartridges.  Need to do some more searching on the boards about the 160gb+ limitations/hacks/etc.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on December 14, 2009, 06:33:15 am
I'm currently contemplating shopping for some larger HD's to put into both DMS cartridges.  Need to do some more searching on the boards about the 160gb+ limitations/hacks/etc.

Just about any parallel ATA hard drive will work. SATA drives aren't electrically compatible, and SSD's done work for unknown reasons.

Having said that, your choices for large PATA drives are pretty limited. At 250GB and above, the only available units are the WD2500BEVE (250GB) and the WD3200BEVE (320GB). Manufacturer link here (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=599).

PATA drives are going the way of the dodo bird, so if you want one I'd suggest buying it now.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: bassplayer_uk on January 19, 2010, 04:38:00 pm
Hi there,

I'm a Mac owner with a PhatBox. I'm VERY interested in getting something that will work with OS X (Snow Leapard). Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I'm happy to do any tests you want and would be prepared to pay for hardware.

P.s. I have a USB 2 cradle.

Darren
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: burnbender on January 22, 2010, 03:41:44 pm
Hi, I also am interested in a cradle upgrade, I own 2 USB1.0 doorstops and hacked my kegs about 2 years ago. Since that time I went to Vista, and now 7 and I have no access to the keg. How are you going to notify the release date? And can I get myself on a waiting list?
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on January 23, 2010, 11:54:21 am
Hi, I also am interested in a cradle upgrade, I own 2 USB1.0 doorstops and hacked my kegs about 2 years ago. Since that time I went to Vista, and now 7 and I have no access to the keg. How are you going to notify the release date? And can I get myself on a waiting list?

I'll announce it here when I have the completed upgrades available. I've got 26 new DMS cradle connectors on hand, and there have been fewer than 26 voters in the poll, so I don't expect there will be a delay after I finish the first production run of boards. I've been away from this project for some time due to other issues, but I still hope to announce this in February as I originally posted.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: hildeand on April 03, 2010, 03:26:43 pm
Hi, hadn't noticed this thread before, but I would certainly fork out for a solution that allows connecting the cradle and DMS to my Mac (running Snow Leopard) without having to disassemble the cartridge and use a USB caddy!

Hilde & Bjorn
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on April 04, 2010, 09:22:22 pm
Hi, hadn't noticed this thread before, but I would certainly fork out for a solution that allows connecting the cradle and DMS to my Mac (running Snow Leopard) without having to disassemble the cartridge and use a USB caddy!

Stay tuned - after an unplanned hiatus, I'll be getting back to this around the 15th of April.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: my2kmx5 on April 05, 2010, 12:36:11 am
I am interested in this cradle you are working on. I have Windows 7, Home Premium 64 bit version. I have two hacked DMS, one with a 160GB Western Digital drive and another with a 160GB Seagate drive. If this cradle is the solution to using PMM 3.92 or other, then I want one. I hope I'm not to late to get in on the offer.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on April 05, 2010, 12:52:33 am
I hope I'm not to late to get in on the offer.

Not at all. I don't take pre-orders or announce ordering until I have a product in hand to sell (on another forum, a bunch of us pre-ordered some custom lights that took nearly 2 years to be delivered). I won't do that to anybody - I'd rather eat the cost of un-sold units. The first batch will be 25 units and I'll do more after that as demand warrants.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: phasolutions.com on April 06, 2010, 02:10:34 am
Count me in Terry. I am tired of booting into Windows XP to run my Phatnoise apps!

Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: farishat on April 14, 2010, 04:22:19 am
Me too, I would like one to keep my sanity
I'm tired of dismantling the DMS and using a USB key for every CD I add!!! What a piece of work!
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: jtnfoley on May 18, 2010, 09:38:57 pm
I'm game if it'll fix the mount/dismount stability problem with my new 320GB disk!  ;D
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: undertow on June 27, 2010, 07:01:01 am
Please put me down for two upgrades, I have a second unused USB 1.0 cradle :)
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: gtwibell on August 05, 2010, 11:58:19 am
Here's another Mac and Snow Leopard user who'd welcome an updated cradle. The horror of booting up an ancient Windows XP laptop just to update the DMS is wearing me down. Put me down for a kit too please (I have the USB 2.0 cradle).

GeoffT.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on August 17, 2010, 04:07:38 am
Nothing much has happened on this since my last posts - spring through fall is racing season and I run my race car all around the country: http://www.atomacrossamerica.org - in fact, this is the first time I've been on this forum in months.

I'd like to say that the PC board rapid-prototype place flaked out, but the truth is that we both did. I'll get back to this in the fall - stay tuned.

Thanks,
Terry
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: amb on August 24, 2010, 05:51:54 am
I haven't been around here much and just noticed this thread.  I am also interested in the upgrade if it's not too late.  I have  Win 7 ultimate x64 on a couple computers here, and a DMS with a 80GB Western Digital drive (might upgrade to a larger size soon).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: chico on September 22, 2010, 05:41:29 pm
I'd be interested in one of these too. I'm holding onto my ancient XP machine just so I can sync music to my DMS. It would be great to transfer files directly to the DMS from my newer computer. I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit) if that helps.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Smertrios on October 27, 2010, 04:31:23 am
Should the project still be ongoing, I'd be interested in a replacement board for my USB 2.0 cradle - keeping an XP machine just for the sake of the DMS is becoming a pain....  Any information would be gladly accepted!
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on October 27, 2010, 05:11:20 am
Should the project still be ongoing, I'd be interested in a replacement board for my USB 2.0 cradle - keeping an XP machine just for the sake of the DMS is becoming a pain....  Any information would be gladly accepted!

It will still happen. The current state of things is that I have a hand-made cable that converts the standard Cypress evaluation board drive connector to the connector that the DMS plugs into. I have a couple dozen of those connectors on hand (they're the hardest piece to get as they come from Japan). That's what the screen captures earlier in this thread show. I have a PC board design but no actual PC boards, and I don't know that the layout is correct (electrical or mechanical). I did laser-print the board design on some card stock and test-fit it into a cradle housing, but there's no guarantee that the first batch of boards will actually fit. Though they could be run "naked" (no cradle housing) for people who are desperate.

I plan on getting back to this during the winter months when I can't do anything with my race car (which takes up the rest of my free time). I expected that would have happened by now, but we're still having weather in the 70's here, so I get in as much seat time as I can with the car (I've got over 30,000 miles on it, which is the national record and not likely to be challenged any time soon).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: chico on October 27, 2010, 02:48:14 pm
Thanks for posting an update on where things stand with this. I know I'm anxiously awaiting having a cradle that works properly with Windows 7. Thanks for the work you're putting into this.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: ryanmc on October 27, 2010, 10:39:29 pm
count me in for a cradle or board or whatever i can get. I havent been able to put music on my keg in sometime and just dont feel like taking it apart to do so. a plain board that wont fit in the original cradle would be fine too.
Ryan
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: vallibus on November 07, 2010, 10:12:21 pm
Yep, I'm also interested in a cradle which will work with Windows 7.

Bruce
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Fran on November 08, 2010, 01:00:03 am
I am definately interested in a mod to my current USB 1 cradle that will work with windows 7.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: texasaggie94 on December 13, 2010, 03:05:50 am
Would like to add my name to the long list of users looking to modify thier cradle to work on WIN 7.  Winter months are here, hope the project is going well.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: suilobo on December 27, 2010, 03:09:20 pm
Would like one too... any updates on this? Thanks.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: chico on January 26, 2011, 03:08:38 pm
Any updates on this? Thanks.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: amb on January 31, 2011, 12:18:16 pm
Calling Terry...  :'(
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: chico on February 11, 2011, 03:05:12 pm
Winter is (hopefully) nearing its end. Any updates on this? I'd love to have Windows 7 recognize my hacked drive as a DMS and not as a mass storage device.
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: irvingwashington on March 26, 2011, 10:46:11 pm
I will order several USB cradles (3+) that are Win7 compatible.   I have many DMS loaded with WD320 drives .....and many hours of lost time trying to make them all play well together.   I am tire of buildiing XP SP3 virutal machines.  Sigh.    Hope Terry has some time to do the batch build.......did it ever happen?
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Super C on March 30, 2011, 08:42:45 pm
Please tell me this is happening! I have an old kenwood excelon keg that vista isn't recognizing. I tried installing the web drivers and it says I don't have permissions?! Anyway, I think this would solve the problem!
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: Terry_Kennedy on April 22, 2011, 11:17:00 am
Things are definitely happening behind the scenes. Here's the latest news:

I have handed the cradle project off to someone who can devote the necessary amount of time to it. That person is very well-known, but in order to avoid flooding them with email, they'll make an announcement here when the boards are close to completion.

I am sending that person all the stuff I have, including the Cypress development kit, the cradle DMS connectors, and a working pile-of-parts that reports that it is a "PhatHack Cradle" to Windows / PMM and works as such, although it isn't in the DMS cradle form factor.

Please don't speculate (at least not in public ;D) as to who you think the well-known person is. It almost certainly isn't the person you're thinking of (whoever that may be).
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: chico on April 22, 2011, 02:01:40 pm
This is very good news! Thanks for posting this update.

Since your post practically begged us to guess who you have working on it, my guess is Santa Claus.  :D
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: rjw75 on June 01, 2011, 03:29:43 pm
I'm interested in a couple of the new cradles that enable Windows 7 to run my DMS's with ease.  ;) ;D 8)
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: bassplayer_uk on July 07, 2011, 03:11:15 pm
Fantastic news. Thanks for your many efforts Terry and thanks to whoever has been so kind as to take the project on. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these so I can finally update the ancient music in my car! :-)
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: ecb5 on July 27, 2011, 02:26:33 pm
i don't understand.
I have win7 x64.
istalled 2.0_drivers.exe from phatnoise website
rebooted
installed pmm 2.30 from website
pluged in my DMS and all worked fine
Title: Re: Interested in a Windows Vista/7 capable USB cradle upgrade? (and maybe Mac too)
Post by: rjw75 on October 19, 2011, 04:19:10 am
Hi, any news/updates on the new cradles please?   ;D 8)