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Title: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 30, 2005, 07:26:57 pm
hello all, I'm new  :)

I've hacked my 20Gb Disk for a 100GB.  The hack seemed to go well and from Phatnoise Music Manager I can see the DMS, create discs and save them.  I can also play music on my PC from the DMS.

The problem I have is that when I put it into the car it just does nothing.  Let me clarify.  I insert the DMS, from the HU I select my'CD' it sees a load of tracks but plays nothing.

If I swap back to the 20GB disc it works fine.

I have also re-hacked the 100GB drive but still no luck.

Any ideas for a newbie.

BTW, happy New Year  8-)
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: S80_UK on December 31, 2005, 12:06:24 am
You say you've hacked the DMS cartridge - but have you applied the hack to your Phatbox?  (this must be done using the original 20 gig DMS).  Without the box being hacked, your new cartridge will not work.  

Les.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 10:25:51 am
Yes Lee I have & the 20GB works just fine.

I can run the 100GB disk in Music Manager, load & save discs / files and even play music on my PC from the DMS.  When I load it into the car the lights flash for a few secondd the  go out.  when I go to the HU I have no music.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 11:56:30 am
More news, day 2:

I've re-tried the hack and notice that I get the message "Software load failed!".  I've seen other threads with this message but they also seem to contain Error 5 on the end, whereas mine has a !.

I can still load PM and it sees the DMS ok and allows me to save music to it.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on December 31, 2005, 02:35:03 pm
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More news, day 2:

I've re-tried the hack and notice that I get the message "Software load failed!".  I've seen other threads with this message but they also seem to contain Error 5 on the end, whereas mine has a !.

I can still load PM and it sees the DMS ok and allows me to save music to it.


It's likely that the script is unable to modify or update a file on your DMS.

I suggest strongly that you run a chkdsk /f on each of the DMS partitions (phtsys and phtdta) and then remove the backup directory from the phtsys partition.  Reload the current firmware via PMM or from extracting the zip files found on phatbox.sixpak.org and then deleting the forceupdate file in phtsys.  Then verify that the DMS works in your car.  (you may get a corrupt track message right away, but thats okay.  if it starts playing normally your are in good shape.)

Then you can retry the hack CD.  Or go the manual route posted on the forums too.  Search for Audi Manual Hack and look for a thread by Genisis.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 04:07:01 pm
Hi judb, thanks for the help.  Here's what i've just done...

I assumed from you saying run chkdsk/f you mean from the hack CD rather than a windows type chkdsk?

Anyway I booted the hack CD, inserted the DMS and it says

Found "PHTSYS            " and "PHTDATA       ".
Press Enter to repair DMS.

so I did and it went off and did what would appear to be a disk check.  At the end it said

Sarch for DMS: Found
Check partition table: OK
Repair partitions: Fixed
Reformat (if uncorecaoverable erros occur): Not Needed
Repair Done.

I deleted the backup directory (using windows explorer)
I repatched the frimware (which already saying 7.02)
I deleted the forceupdate in PHTSYS

dropped it into the car and it still plays no music.  interestingly this time it turned the HU on/off about 6 times them turn it off period.  

Quite alarmingly I cannot now start the HU even after removing the DMS.  No lights, no audio, nothing.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 04:30:16 pm
Oh and I have done a Windows chkdsk and it says everything is fine.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 05:06:57 pm
I've just disconnected the Keg from the car.  HU still off?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on December 31, 2005, 05:11:16 pm
I was talking about the old DMS.. do that before you apply the hack CD stuff to it.  

I don't think the hack is running properly.  Also there are some logs that it creates on the old DMS that would be helpful to troubleshoot the issue.

I suspect you just need to search for the manual method and follow it step by step and it should work for you though.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 05:21:18 pm
ok.  I'll give this a try tomorrow.

thanks.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on December 31, 2005, 07:43:22 pm
Now I'm confused.

My 20GB Disk now goes straight to the repair screen when I boot it from the hack CD.  It does it's thing and says everything is ok.

what's going on.  What am I doing wrong

Sorry I'm not normally such a dumb ass  ::)

I am pleased to report that my HU is working again and the 20GB cartridge plays music.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: sbingner on December 31, 2005, 07:58:59 pm
if you can find me on irc at #phathack on irc.freenode.net I may be able to help, I can't handle trying to troubleshoot stuff on forums
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 07, 2006, 04:25:01 pm
Ok so i've got my 20gb to a point where i'm happy it's working.

I've been through the hack process all over again, everything seemed just fine.  Insert the DMS into the car and same result, no music.  It lists the playlist but no music and the timer fails to advance.

I've tried re-applying the firmware and it goes through it's cycle but the result is the same.

I've notice that bootload.txt on the DMS is empty. (it's fine on the 20GB)  Unlike some other peoples problems the profile directory is full of p*.* files

I haven't tried the manual hack described by genesis yet.  Should I?  - Or tried using dd for windows

I should add that before re-applying the hack to the 100GB drive I deleted the partitions first to ensure it was all new.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 09, 2006, 08:31:32 am
Now I'm completely stumped.  The DMS has been working just fine in the car with the original 20GB disk installed.  Yesterday I added a single music CD to the disk in exactly the same way that i'd added the others.  I also moved the welcome playlist to the end of the playlists (102 I think).

Today I get the message 'NO MAG' and no music.

Have I got a dodgy keg or DMS?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 20, 2006, 08:18:01 pm
My DMS now continuously loops through the firmware update (fast blinking for 5 minutes then off).  I've reset the keg, reformatted the disks, reapplied the patch, corrupted the sig file, deleted forceupdate.  No matter what I try I can't get it to settle down.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on January 20, 2006, 09:05:59 pm
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My DMS now continuously loops through the firmware update (fast blinking for 5 minutes then off).  I've reset the keg, reformatted the disks, reapplied the patch, corrupted the sig file, deleted forceupdate.  No matter what I try I can't get it to settle down.

Any ideas?


Which DMS is this that is acting weird? the original DMS?

I would suggest formatting the DMS using the repair mode of the hack CD or the phatnoise repair CD.

Alternatly you could just delete the database files out of the phtdta root and delete the profiles directory and see if you can get one playlist setup to work before you reformat the DMS and have to wait for music to copy over.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: markbowen on January 20, 2006, 09:41:29 pm
Anito, you've got an Audi Phatbox as far as I can tell -- this thread is very confusing.  There are issues related to the Audi/VW boxes and apparently particularly when trying to run the patch using the Audi/VW 20GB DMS.

Suggest you read through these threads:
http://forum.phathack.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1123119033
http://forum.phathack.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1134162041

Those might give you some ideas to try.  You can also search "Audi" to find more threads.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 21, 2006, 09:25:19 am
judb & markbowen,

My problem is with the original 20GB disk, although the 100GB hack does exactly the same.

when I insert the DMS into the car it powers up and runs for about 5 minutes doing what appears to be the firmware patch.  when its done it powers off then after about 3 seconds back on again and so the cycle goes.

I have tried the instructions provided by genesis, still no luck
I have reformatted the partitions using windows, no luck
I have repartitioned & reformatted the partitions using some tools provided by phatnoise, no luck
I have reset my keg, no luck
I have a zillion times wiped the disk and started again, no luck.

I'm completely at a loss, the DMS seems fine in the PC and I can listen to the music.  As soon as I put it into the car all it wants to do I run the patch.

A reminder on some background:

Two weeks ago now all was working fine so I went for it and copied 101 albums to the DMS.  I inserted it into the car and it worked fine.  The next day I added one more CD and moved the welcome playlist to the end (102).  I put the DMS back into the car and it started saying NO MAG.  since that day i've not heard a peep from it.

The car has been to the dealer and he's checked wiring, HU and all that.  The phatnoise has been tried in another Audi and it does the same thing.

I'm at a loss.

Does anyone here live or work in either the shropshire or wiltshire area?  I'd be interested to see what another phatnoise does in my car?
cheers
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: markbowen on January 21, 2006, 02:00:15 pm
I just went through my own tribulations patching my Kenwood keg, so don't count on me for much.  But a couple of things:

If your original DMS stopped working only after you moved the welcome playlist to the end, common sense would suggest you move the welcome playlist back to the beginning and see what happens.

Never mind what the DMS does in the PC.  You can take any disk and create two partitions called phtsys and phtdta and the Phatnoise software will think it's a DMS.  Doesn't mean it will work in your car.

Most importantly, judb can probably confirm that there have been issues when trying to patch a box using a 20GB Audi/VW disk as the source.  I don't know that it's been resolved.  Search some more through the forums for "Audi" or "VW" and you will find more info.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 21, 2006, 03:26:22 pm
Mark,

I'm no longer trying to hack my 20GB, I'm just trying to get it working again.  As for the the welcome playlist I tried moving it to the beginning and that was no good.  I've re-formatted the drive several times (the process re-creates the welcome playlist) and still it doesn't work.

I'll keep searching for references to 20GB disks in Audi's

cheers.

Oooh, just remembered something else.  I have no log files or directories?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 21, 2006, 04:33:36 pm
More info:

I've booted my laptop using partition magic and it reports and error with the DMS drive "Partition table error #108 found"  If I ask for info on the drive it says the partition is BAD.

is this just beacuse Partition Magic doesn't understand the drive or is there really an error?

Can I recover from this?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: markbowen on January 21, 2006, 05:03:44 pm
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Oooh, just remembered something else.  I have no log files or directories?

You wouldn't have a log directory unless the DMS is in the state as after running the hack CD.  Problem is you've done so much with the original DMS by now it's hard for anyone to tell what state it's actually in.  

What it sounds like to me is that your Phatbox was incompletely patched at some point.  What's happening at startup is it's trying to complete the process and unable to do so for some reason.  At least what you're describing is very similar to what I went through trying to patch my Keg.  You have to finish the patch somehow, which does mean starting from scratch.  But you need someone who has successfully patched an Audi box to be more precise, and I can't help you there.  Hopefully someone will jump into this thread who knows more.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: S80_UK on January 21, 2006, 06:54:16 pm
Re the Partition Magic problem - this is normal (at least on version 8).  It does not like some aspect of the way that the DMS is partitioned and reports the partitions as Bad as you say.  I certainly suggest that you do NOT use Partition Magic to attempt a fix, or you may really screw the DMS.

Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 21, 2006, 07:53:11 pm
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Re the Partition Magic problem - this is normal (at least on version 8).  It does not like some aspect of the way that the DMS is partitioned and reports the partitions as Bad as you say.  I certainly suggest that you do NOT use Partition Magic to attempt a fix, or you may really screw the DMS.


I thought so, cheers.

So i'm still no closer to a working DMS  :-[
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: sbingner on January 28, 2006, 07:47:00 am
still not sure what your problem could be...  unfortunately I'm in a remote location for the next week so I won't be around on IRC, but can you try to describe the blinking?  make sure it's not a code followed by alot of fast blinking (the blinking led of death)  if so, you could have your sig area corrupted on your original DMS, if you dont have a patched DMS you may need to get somebody with an unmodified DMS (read: booting original, it may have been used to apply patch) to help you....  if you corrupted the ramdisk.sig on a clean install by replacing it with linux.sig and it didn't work, the problem isn't related to the actual patch process
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on January 31, 2006, 05:01:46 pm
Is there anyone in the mainland UK that would be prepared to re-hack my original DMS for me?  I'll be quite happy to pay for transportation and even some goodwill.

cheers.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: S80_UK on February 04, 2006, 05:27:42 pm
Hi Anito,

Well, I am in the UK (Cambridgeshire)  - but work is keeping me elsewhere in Europe a fair bit at the moment.  I may be able to help, but can't guarantee my availability.  Where are you based?

Regards,

Les.

Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 05, 2006, 04:31:17 am
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Hi Anito,

Well, I am in the UK (Cambridgeshire)  - but work is keeping me elsewhere in Europe a fair bit at the moment.  I may be able to help, but can't guarantee my availability.  Where are you based?

Regards,

Les.


cheers for the offer.  I found a chap on ASN who I sent my DMS to last week.

Quite bizarrely he inserted my DMS into his car & it worked first time, no problems and with no effort.  he then copied some other music and that too is fine.  The DMS is now on it's way back to me to try again in my car.

I am totally puzzled by this.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: timps on February 05, 2006, 08:12:50 am
Hi Anito it was me I saw your post both on here and ASN.

For your information:-

My box is hacked.
This is Anito’s genuine 20 gig Audi DMS.
When  I checked Anito’s  DMS there was no music present so  I downloaded 2 CD’s  onto the DMS using PMM (FLAC I think) & then tried it in my car.  
It played straight away in my car so if the genuine sig is corrupt it does not affect my box or the problem lies elsewhere.

So in my opinion it is either a problem with the Phatbox or a problem downloading to the DMS at Anito’s end.

I have sent the DMS back untouched apart from the music I loaded.

Craig
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 10, 2006, 07:51:17 pm
Update,

Without doing anything to the DMS I inserted it into the car.   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  and it still won't work in my car.

I inserted into the cradle and could see the music timps added for me.  I re-downloaded and updated the firmware (which was showing correctly anyway) inserted into the car and still no use

It seems to me the problem is with the keg in the car not the DMS.  Anyone know how to fix this?  I'm getting close to sending it back to Phatnoise for repair.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on February 10, 2006, 09:31:10 pm
Did you try using anyone elses original DMS to see if that would make it work?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: timps on February 10, 2006, 10:08:24 pm
Having just read this post from  sbingner

Quote from sbingner  “actually, once the hack is applied... you should be able to use any drive that's partitioned properly, with or without the signature.  I've verified this on all my phatboxes and on a few other people's boxes with the newest patch applied.  The hack CD still copis the signature just to be safe”

Then if my box is hacked with the newest patch (not sure which version of patch I used) is it possible the DMS sig is corrupt but it still works in my box.

If this is the case your box might not be hacked properly and the sig is now corrupt but this does not affect my box but does with yours.

And if your box is not hacked then an original DMS would be needed to re run the hack.

Did you ever get your replacement  drive to work in  the car?

If you could get your box to me I could try running the hack again for you using my original drive.

Someone more knowledgeable would have to advise if this would be worthwhile?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 10, 2006, 11:20:27 pm
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Did you try using anyone elses original DMS to see if that would make it work?


Timps has put my DMS in his car.  I have not tried anyone else's DMS in my car.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 10, 2006, 11:26:01 pm
Here's a thought and question.

It seems my original DMS is just fine.  I also have a 100GB replacement ready for the day things start working.  Is it worth me trying to hack this new drive in an attempt to force the keg back to normal life?

thoughts  :-?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: timps on February 12, 2006, 04:47:49 pm
You would need an original uncorrupted drive to run the hack if the hack has not worked at all.

As for your DMS as my early post suggests it might have a corrupt signature but this does not affect my box.

You need to try a genuine DMS as judb suggests if it works then the box needs hacking if not then there is another problem.

If you are prepared to travel or send the box I will help as much as I can.

Craig
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 12, 2006, 05:30:00 pm
I have also now tried version 7.00, 6.00 and 5.00 of the firmware, none of which have applied correctly.  The Keg continualy thinks it needs to process the firmware upgrade and will go no further.

Let me re-iterate this is my original, genuine 20GB DMS that was working.

even if I delete the forceupdate file it still tries to patch the keg.  

This week it's going back in it's box to phatnoise and they can fix this.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: S80_UK on February 12, 2006, 05:35:39 pm
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It seems my original DMS is just fine.

Hi Anito, are you sure it is OK?  As was mentioned, your original DMS has been shown to work in a hacked box.  That does not mean that the DMS is guaranteed to work in your un-hacked (or incompletely hacked) box.  It simply means that the hard disk istelf is functional.  Unless you have the original DMS proven to work in an unhacked box, then there is a possibility that the signature area on that DMS has been corrupted.  If it has, then most probably this was done during one of your attempts to repartition or re-format (Windows based repartitioning and formatting do not always respect how other systems may have allocated disk space).

As Timps has said, the real test for the DMS would be to try your DMS in an unhacked box.  If that works then your DMS is OK and there is a box problem.  If that does not work then you need to use an original Phatnoise DMS with a valid signature in order to complete the patching of your box and to possible get it's firmware into the correct state.

Until the box is known to work with an original DMS and then the hack is applied to it, you will not be able to do anything with your 100 gig drive.  You cannot apply the hack using your 100 gig drive since until the box is hacked it will not recognse the 100 gig drive as valid.

And in you last post...
 
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even if I delete the forceupdate file it still tries to patch the keg.
 

This seems really strange.  I suspect that it is not patching, but is stuck in some kind of error loop.

Regards,

Les.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: sbingner on February 13, 2006, 10:47:36 am
still sounds like you have it patched up to the point it needs a corrupted ramdisk.sig but I think you said you tried that
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 13, 2006, 12:59:42 pm
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still sounds like you have it patched up to the point it needs a corrupted ramdisk.sig but I think you said you tried that


I have yes.  But before I put it in a box and ship it off I'll try one more time  ::)
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: sbingner on February 13, 2006, 02:15:01 pm
speaking of shipping, if you feel like paying shipping to me and back I'll fix it for you heh...
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: sbingner on February 13, 2006, 02:16:41 pm
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Having just read this post from  sbingner
If you could get your box to me I could try running the hack again for you using my original drive.

Someone more knowledgeable would have to advise if this would be worthwhile?

I wouldn't be surprised if that fixed it
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: Anito on February 13, 2006, 05:24:19 pm
Given that my DMS works elsewhere can't I just try the hack again myself?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: cleavea on May 19, 2006, 12:28:08 pm
HI Guys

Newbie here, but having the exactly same problem as Antonio with my new Audi PhatBox, loaded the latest firmware patch 7.02 I think on to the 20gb DMS unit and loaded into the car, connected the cd cable to the PhatBox,  the unit just seems to loop continuously through the firmware patch update without ever loading up. Green light flashes slowly for 8 blinks and then flashes faster for about 5min - 8mins, then both lights go out for a second or 2, then both come on, the green light flashes 8 times and then faster for 5-8mins again,

Is there anyone out there who could lend their 20gb original DMS to fix the Phatbox firmware or can i send the unit to you to get patched correctly? PhatNoise have told me to send back to my retailer. but as it was purchased on ebay - i'm not holding out much hope from him.      

Any help would be appreciated

AndyC :(
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 22, 2006, 12:24:34 am
Hello All,

I have a Phatbox for my VW also.  I have the exact same / similar problem.  I hacked the original DMS and then put it into my Phatbox.  It acted a little strange.  It started playing the last song I had listened to before I took it out.  I expected it to pause like it does when a firmware upgrade is being applied, but this was not the case.  Then the box simply died.  Stopped playing the song, no magazine detected, and the lights on the phatbox keep blinking.  It is broken.

I next attempted to repair the DMS.  I booted into the repair cd and it notified me that the partition table was corrupted?  I checked the bootlog and I get this:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 BOOT0-0: OK
BOOT0-1: OK
BOOT0: Successful
BOOT9: Successful
BOOTB: Successful
BOOTF: Successful
BOOT*-X: Failed
                  

Any ideas would be great right about now. Thanks.

Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 22, 2006, 05:50:36 pm
You need to corrupt your ramdisk.sig and try again.  that should be the last time you have to boot it for the patch to finish.  Theres lots of posts that have instructions on that.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 22, 2006, 06:02:54 pm
You mean I need to run the hack cd again on the DMS and then boot the phatbox.  So, its not broken?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 22, 2006, 06:12:28 pm
unless you did something to your DMS since you ran the hack CD last time, no you don't need to re run the CD.
You need to corrupt your ramdisk.sig file and that should allow the system to boot up and run the patch the last time which will also alow you to use a new DMS.  That is what I mean.

http://forum.phathack.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=search

search range should be 365 days or more.. search for corrupt ramdisk.sig and see if you can find instructions. :)
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: S80_UK on May 22, 2006, 09:46:01 pm
Specifically, do this....

http://forum.phathack.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126429647/1#1

This then allows the patch process to resume.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: cleavea on May 23, 2006, 12:02:25 am
Thanks for the pointers guys, but still no joy here. corupted the ramdrive.sig file and the unit still sat there flashing away for 8 mins or so and then restarted and did the same again. have now done all of the following .

reformated thephtsys and phtdata drives
reapplied firmware to phtsys
deleted the forceupdate file
corrupted the ramdrive.sig file


there must be something i can do to get this unit going ? anyone in Hampshire, UK who could lend me their dms to see if it the dms or the phatbox that is at fault ?

Any advise help would be appricated.. as i'm getting desperate now.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 23, 2006, 12:37:54 am
well it could be another file's .sig that needs corrupting.  not really sure ... is this the original DMS that isn't working now?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 23, 2006, 02:28:43 am
Corrupting the ramdisk.sig seems to have fixed the original DMS.  It started playing music again.  I think the hack patch completed, but I'm not sure.  Songs started playing on the phatbox, and then after a couple of minutes, I heard simultaneously the sound file saying the patch had completed.  I think that part is finished?  

The phatbox still doesn't recognize the new DMS I made yet, but I definitely feel a whole lot better about this process.  

Thanks.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: cleavea on May 23, 2006, 07:22:43 am
Yes it is the original DMS that has the problem..
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: cleavea on May 23, 2006, 09:41:08 am
I'm thinking would it be an idea to boot pc using the hack cd and the view the logs ? or can this be done from windows ?  
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 23, 2006, 01:38:01 pm
the log files are just text format files you can open with notepad.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: cleavea on May 23, 2006, 02:01:52 pm
which files should i be looking at ?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 24, 2006, 04:58:16 pm
Still having problems with getting the new DMS to boot.  I can't seem to figure out where it is having a problem.

This is what I have done:
Ran hack boot cd on Orig. DMS.
Placed Orig. DMS in Phatbox. Seems a partial patch occurred?
Removed Orig. DMS from Phabox.
Corrupted ramdisk.sig.
Placed back in Phatbox.
Heard voice that Phatbox was unlocked.
Removed Original DMS.
Used Original DMS to generate new DMS.
Put new DMS in Phatbox.
Nothing happens.  No lights. Nada.  Head unit eventually displays no magazine.
Removed new DMS.
Ran DMS doctor on new DMS.
DMS doctor says MD5 checksum error for aadec.sig.

Researched problem and found this thread with this post:
http://forum.phathack.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1134084911/30
Here, I wasn't exactly sure what was done to get the new DMS to work (seems the poster threw the kitchen sink at the DMS.)  

But, what I have done is: update the new DMS firmware and rebuild the new DMS DBase.  After updating the firmware, the new DMS passes all DMS Doctor tests (no MD5 checksum error.)  The bootlog is empty on the new DMS.  It is like the Phatbox doesn't even recognize the new DMS was placed into it.  
The original DMS still is working.  It will always play the "unlock" speech file at startup which I guess is fine?  It works fine for playback.  

This is a VW PB.  My new DMS is using a Seagate 120gb momentus.

I'm pretty certain I did not do something or did not do something correctly.  Should I just start over?

Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 24, 2006, 10:10:46 pm
when you plug the DMS into the phatbox.. the NEW DMS.. you get  no lights on the phatbox at all?  when you use the old DMS you do get lights right?

I'd say you either have it jumpered wrong or you are not making good contact with the switch inside the phatbox so its not powering up because no DMS is inserted as far as it knows.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 25, 2006, 12:31:35 am
Okay I got lights now with the new DMS.  First the red light, then immediately after the green light comes on.  Both stay on for 30 seconds to a minute.  Then they both go out and sequence repeats.

Still get no magazine on head unit.  The bootload.log has a size of 4KB, but nothing ascii.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 25, 2006, 02:24:06 am
did you make sure the dms was jumpered correctly?
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 25, 2006, 03:07:29 pm
The old DMS works fine.  It just always says my system has been unlocked when it starts up.

New DMS has no jumpers (which equals master) ; I believe it is jumpered correctly.

I did run a fsck on the drive from the linux hack boot disc.  It complained that the partition table was corrupt.  I think I may need to re-partition / re-create the new DMS???
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 27, 2006, 12:14:37 pm
I repartitioned and reformatted the new DMS and it still will not work.  Could someone tell me if the patch actually ever completed?  It looks like it did not.  But, the patchverify.log says everything is verified.

patchwrite.log:
PhatPatch v0.4 - original code by bushing, additional patches by sbingner
first 2 words of flash=c102 0025
writing auto-id command (AA, 55, 90)
Flash chip reports manufacturer id=0004, device id=22bf
Resetting flash.
Testing patch locations:
Patch 1 @ 0bb8: make drive signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0033 1a00    Actual: 0033 1a00
Match! Programming...
PhatPatch v0.4 - original code by bushing, additional patches by sbingner
first 2 words of flash=c102 0025
writing auto-id command (AA, 55, 90)
Flash chip reports manufacturer id=0004, device id=22bf
Resetting flash.
Testing patch locations:
Patch 1 @ 0bb8: make drive signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0033 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Mismatch!
Patch 2 @ 0bec: make rc.sh signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0026 1a00    Actual: 0026 1a00
Match! Programming...
PhatPatch v0.4 - original code by bushing, additional patches by sbingner
firs
<Then some null and garbage here>
first 2 words of flash=c102 0025
writing auto-id command (AA, 55, 90)
Flash chip reports manufacturer id=0004, device id=22bf
Resetting flash.
Testing patch locations:
Patch 1 @ 0bb8: make drive signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0033 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Mismatch!
Patch 2 @ 0bec: make rc.sh signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0026 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Mismatch!
Patch 3 @ 0c20: make phatd signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0019 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Mismatch!
Patch 4 @ 0c54: make linux signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 000c 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Mismatch!
Patch 5 @ 0354: make ramdisk invalid signature return 0 instead of 0xFFFFFFFF: [movlne r0, 0xFFFFFFFF -> movlne r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 13e0    Actual: 0000 13a0
Mismatch!
Patch 6 @ 0c80: make ramdisk signature check verify 0 instead of 1: [cmp r0, #1 -> cmp r0, #0]
Expected: 0001 e350    Actual: 0000 e350
Mismatch!
Patch 7 @ 0358: make ramdisk valid signature return 0 instead of 1: [moveq r0, #1 -> moveq r0, #0]
Expected: 0001 03a0    Actual: 0001 03a0
Match! Programming...

End of patch.log:
2048+0 records in
2048+0 records out

hdparm - get/set hard disk parameters - version v3.9

<options omitted to save space in post>

PhatPatch v0.4 - original code by bushing, additional patches by sbingner
Verifying:
Patch 1 @ 0bb8: make drive signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 2 @ 0bec: make rc.sh signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 3 @ 0c20: make phatd signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 4 @ 0c54: make linux signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 5 @ 0354: make ramdisk invalid signature return 0 instead of 0xFFFFFFFF: [movlne r0, 0xFFFFFFFF -> movlne r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 13a0    Actual: 0000 13a0
Verified!
Patch 6 @ 0c80: make ramdisk signature check verify 0 instead of 1: [cmp r0, #1 -> cmp r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 e350    Actual: 0000 e350
Verified!
Patch 7 @ 0358: make ramdisk valid signature return 0 instead of 1: [moveq r0, #1 -> moveq r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 03a0    Actual: 0000 03a0
Verified!
done
: No such file or directory
: No such file or directory
/dos/backup/patch.sh: kup/p: No such file or directory

Following printed twice in patchverify.log
Starting Patch Process
PhatPatch v0.4 - original code by bushing, additional patches by sbingner
Verifying:
Patch 1 @ 0bb8: make drive signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 2 @ 0bec: make rc.sh signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 3 @ 0c20: make phatd signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 4 @ 0c54: make linux signature check always succeed: [bne verify_sig_failed -> bne PC+1]
Expected: 0000 1a00    Actual: 0000 1a00
Verified!
Patch 5 @ 0354: make ramdisk invalid signature return 0 instead of 0xFFFFFFFF: [movlne r0, 0xFFFFFFFF -> movlne r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 13a0    Actual: 0000 13a0
Verified!
Patch 6 @ 0c80: make ramdisk signature check verify 0 instead of 1: [cmp r0, #1 -> cmp r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 e350    Actual: 0000 e350
Verified!
Patch 7 @ 0358: make ramdisk valid signature return 0 instead of 1: [moveq r0, #1 -> moveq r0, #0]
Expected: 0000 03a0    Actual: 0000 03a0
Verified!
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 27, 2006, 03:02:30 pm
according to this your box is patched just fine.

Does the new dms have a bootload.log file on it?  Does anything get written to it?  sorry if I've already asked these questions.. this thread is getting rather long.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on May 27, 2006, 09:58:49 pm
Okay, so it is patched.  The old DMS always says your system has been unlocked when I put it in the Phatbox.  I thought maybe because it is doing this  (constantly running the patch) and some of the mismatch messages in the patchwrite.log could mean the box was not patched.

The new dms does have a bootload.log file, but at first it was empty.  Then I ran a fsck on the new DMS and it found errors and I had to recreate it from the boot cd.  Then, the new DMS had nulls in the bootload.log.  I cleared out the nulls and tried again.  Now it is just empty.  I am starting to think the new DMS hd is bad in some way.  It works fine in the cradle or in a 2.5 inch enclosure, but it just doesn't seem to work in the Phatbox.  

I still get lights with the new DMS.  First the red light, then immediately after the green light comes on.  Both stay on for 30 seconds to a minute.  Then they both go out and sequence repeats.

Maybe I'll try returning the drive for a new one.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: judb on May 28, 2006, 03:26:44 pm
There has to be data in the bootload.log (at least a few Kilobytes in size) in order for it to be written to.

Make a copy of the phatbox.ini as bootload.log again and try booting the drive.  That should put some info into the bootload.log.

Also make sure you are letting the lights turn off the phatbox before pulling out a drive as that can cause filesystem errors.
Title: Re: DMS working in PC but not in the car
Post by: The_Dude on June 14, 2006, 12:31:24 am
Finally success !!!

I had to use the manual method to write the signature to the hard disk.  But, that fixed the issue.


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