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#1
PhatBox Hacking / DMS tools help please!
Last post by Grumpytvr - April 17, 2025, 02:21:37 PMHello all.
Been having major problems with DMS tools v2.15 not connecting to retrieve firmware.
So far I've tried in Windows 10, 11 (plus compatibility modes) and XP. I've looked at security settings and allowed the app through the Firewall, checked that I have .Netframework turned on in Windows Features but I'm getting nowhere. DMS tools recognises the DMS no problem, but there are no firmware options in the drop down menu.
I also tried running the software in MXLinux using WINE which did connect to retrieve the firmware but would not recognise the DMS! (think this might be a USB issue with WINE because Linux mounts the DMS fine.)
So close but so far! I've tried the above with the 2 cradles I have (1.1 and 2.0) and no luck.
Can anyone help please? Is there something obvious I'm missing / not doing? I've looked through the forums but there doesn't seem to be a solid answer (although I'm more than happy to be corrected).
All I want to do is reflash a DMS that's not booting with the original software and reflash the box. The DMS is an original with its original drive and is recognised in Phatnoise Music Manager. I'd like to start from a working original system before changing hard drives with the hack procedure.
Any pointers would be very much appreciated, preferably before I pull out my own hair!!
Thanks Tom
Been having major problems with DMS tools v2.15 not connecting to retrieve firmware.
So far I've tried in Windows 10, 11 (plus compatibility modes) and XP. I've looked at security settings and allowed the app through the Firewall, checked that I have .Netframework turned on in Windows Features but I'm getting nowhere. DMS tools recognises the DMS no problem, but there are no firmware options in the drop down menu.
I also tried running the software in MXLinux using WINE which did connect to retrieve the firmware but would not recognise the DMS! (think this might be a USB issue with WINE because Linux mounts the DMS fine.)
So close but so far! I've tried the above with the 2 cradles I have (1.1 and 2.0) and no luck.
Can anyone help please? Is there something obvious I'm missing / not doing? I've looked through the forums but there doesn't seem to be a solid answer (although I'm more than happy to be corrected).
All I want to do is reflash a DMS that's not booting with the original software and reflash the box. The DMS is an original with its original drive and is recognised in Phatnoise Music Manager. I'd like to start from a working original system before changing hard drives with the hack procedure.
Any pointers would be very much appreciated, preferably before I pull out my own hair!!
Thanks Tom
#2
PhatBox Hacking / Audi RNS-E
Last post by vw_man99 - March 08, 2025, 06:31:06 PMHi All, Adding a new Phatbox I had in storage to my project 2007 Audi S4 to replace the CD changer. Its all connected and can do some basic stuff but the buttons do not match up and following guides on audiforum.us to add [VWAudi_v7_3] stanza to phatbox.ini did not work.
- Is there a way to force 'type T' HU in the config files?
- By default, is the [Phatbox] stanza in phatbox.ini loaded so I can update buttons directly there?
Appreciate the help.
- Is there a way to force 'type T' HU in the config files?
- By default, is the [Phatbox] stanza in phatbox.ini loaded so I can update buttons directly there?
Appreciate the help.
#3
Phatnoise Hardware Support / Phatbox / Music Keg issues
Last post by Grumpytvr - October 11, 2024, 02:25:17 PMHi,
Rather late to the party but thought I'd better introduce myself.
Always had a bit of a thing about retro car stereos and recently acquired a Kenwood KHD-C710 music keg plus a KTC-W7044u head unit. The keg has been hacked in the past but I can't get it to work. When I turn on the head unit and select the CD changer I get "Aux Ext" and the Keg doesn't play. I'm fairly sure that it's a hard drive issue (I had a few issues with the bus cable initially, which could have corrupted it), I've downloaded DMS tools and the Phathack media manager, but I can't reinstall Kenwood software because the internal links don't seem to work. – I notice this has been an issue before, is there a fix for this? Likewise I'm running the software in Windows 11, could this be the problem?
Once I've managed to get the Keg working, I also have a Phatbox VA-012, that I'd like to get working with a Sony head unit. I don't know whether this has been hacked in the past and I don't have an original DMS for it. Is there any way of obtaining an image / copy of an original DMS in order to carry out the hack procedure?
Is there anyone on here knocking round in the West country (England)? I've not seen one of these units working to date and it would be good so see a working Phatbox / music Keg to aid in my problem solving..
Cheers
Tom
Rather late to the party but thought I'd better introduce myself.
Always had a bit of a thing about retro car stereos and recently acquired a Kenwood KHD-C710 music keg plus a KTC-W7044u head unit. The keg has been hacked in the past but I can't get it to work. When I turn on the head unit and select the CD changer I get "Aux Ext" and the Keg doesn't play. I'm fairly sure that it's a hard drive issue (I had a few issues with the bus cable initially, which could have corrupted it), I've downloaded DMS tools and the Phathack media manager, but I can't reinstall Kenwood software because the internal links don't seem to work. – I notice this has been an issue before, is there a fix for this? Likewise I'm running the software in Windows 11, could this be the problem?
Once I've managed to get the Keg working, I also have a Phatbox VA-012, that I'd like to get working with a Sony head unit. I don't know whether this has been hacked in the past and I don't have an original DMS for it. Is there any way of obtaining an image / copy of an original DMS in order to carry out the hack procedure?
Is there anyone on here knocking round in the West country (England)? I've not seen one of these units working to date and it would be good so see a working Phatbox / music Keg to aid in my problem solving..
Cheers
Tom
#4
Phatnoise Hardware Support / Re: Restoring DMS with origina...
Last post by PhatNoiserUser - June 18, 2024, 02:25:28 PMWell, a lot of learned these past few weeks.
I was able to pick up a spare DMS from a Kenwood Keg by pure chance. Thankfully, it wasn't messed with. Changed the firmware to VW, and it was read by the Phatbox. Used the DMS tools, ran the hack which was successful and now I'm back to using my original drive.
I was able to pick up a spare DMS from a Kenwood Keg by pure chance. Thankfully, it wasn't messed with. Changed the firmware to VW, and it was read by the Phatbox. Used the DMS tools, ran the hack which was successful and now I'm back to using my original drive.
#5
Phatnoise Hardware Support / Restoring DMS with original fi...
Last post by PhatNoiserUser - May 23, 2024, 10:10:35 PMHi all,
Recently got a Phatbox. My DSM was playing up and after trying different computers (and, VM's), I finally got my DSM to show. However, something wasn't right, so I thought I'd start a fresh. (No backups)
I stupidly formatted the drive and now of course I have an empty drive. I've downloaded Phathack DMS Tools to try and create a new DMS. But, I cannot choose any firmwares? I look in PMM and tried also loading the firmware but, again, nothing is online now.
I found dsmutils and ran the 'newdsm.bat' which recreated the partitions. However, since reading on here, it's not meant to be used? So now I'm stuck with my original DMS, that cannot be read. Really annoyed with myself as I was playing music yesterday and today...
Is anyone able to help to get my DMS back up and running?
Recently got a Phatbox. My DSM was playing up and after trying different computers (and, VM's), I finally got my DSM to show. However, something wasn't right, so I thought I'd start a fresh. (No backups)
I stupidly formatted the drive and now of course I have an empty drive. I've downloaded Phathack DMS Tools to try and create a new DMS. But, I cannot choose any firmwares? I look in PMM and tried also loading the firmware but, again, nothing is online now.
I found dsmutils and ran the 'newdsm.bat' which recreated the partitions. However, since reading on here, it's not meant to be used? So now I'm stuck with my original DMS, that cannot be read. Really annoyed with myself as I was playing music yesterday and today...
Is anyone able to help to get my DMS back up and running?
#6
General / Re: Is it worth reviving the P...
Last post by pacnoise - February 24, 2024, 10:20:43 PMFirst time poster. I lurk here only rarely.
Today, though, I was very happy to have this forum because i needed to find some information, download software and keep my phatbox going... First installed in my Year 2000 Audi, that car keeps running and as of today I can update the music in my DMS again!
Today, though, I was very happy to have this forum because i needed to find some information, download software and keep my phatbox going... First installed in my Year 2000 Audi, that car keeps running and as of today I can update the music in my DMS again!
#7
General / DMS 40 gig displaying loading ...
Last post by Z-Guy - October 17, 2023, 09:08:45 PMI have this 40 gig DMS and it loads fine in the cradle and recognized by the Phatnosie Media Manager (this is not hacked)
But when I insert it into the hub and toggle to it on the head unit, it just flashes loading until it displays eject.
Any help will do!
Z
But when I insert it into the hub and toggle to it on the head unit, it just flashes loading until it displays eject.
Any help will do!
Z
#8
General / Re: Is it worth reviving the P...
Last post by Z-Guy - October 17, 2023, 08:47:55 PMQuote from: Terry_Kennedy on April 12, 2022, 09:45:55 PM
It has been a long time since anyone posted on these forums.
I'm trying to see if there are some lurkers still around who have an interest in using these forums to discuss the Phatnoise PhatBox / Kenwood Music Keg and possibly expand into other types of unusual non-factory audio systems.
I think so, as I still use my Kenwood Phatnoise.
#9
Buying and Selling / The Whole Caboodle For Sale
Last post by neilfearn - October 03, 2023, 01:51:40 PMFor sale - the whole lot
After so many years of fantastic use, I've given in & switched to playing FLAC via other means. For sale is the whole system but I would consider selling in parts. It comprises,
The KHD-C710 Kenwood Keg/Phatnoise Keg
2 DMS's - one an original 120GB , the second the original 10GB that has been upgraded with a 160GB Samgung SATA disk. Both have been reformatted with PhatHack
2 Cradles, versions 1.0 & 2.0, with charger
The KDC-W7044U Kenwood Head Unit. The last, I believe, manufactured that worked with the Kenwood Keg System
Kenwood 10 CD CD Changer
KCA-S210A cd/md changer switching unit
The connecting cables except the one coming out the Keg (is still in the car, fitted under the carpet)
All relevant manual & software.
Any offers???
After so many years of fantastic use, I've given in & switched to playing FLAC via other means. For sale is the whole system but I would consider selling in parts. It comprises,
The KHD-C710 Kenwood Keg/Phatnoise Keg
2 DMS's - one an original 120GB , the second the original 10GB that has been upgraded with a 160GB Samgung SATA disk. Both have been reformatted with PhatHack
2 Cradles, versions 1.0 & 2.0, with charger
The KDC-W7044U Kenwood Head Unit. The last, I believe, manufactured that worked with the Kenwood Keg System
Kenwood 10 CD CD Changer
KCA-S210A cd/md changer switching unit
The connecting cables except the one coming out the Keg (is still in the car, fitted under the carpet)
All relevant manual & software.
Any offers???
#10
General / Re: Is it worth reviving the P...
Last post by Z-Guy - September 22, 2023, 08:45:46 PMI have been running a Kenwood Phatnoise Keg for the last 20 years in my 1987 Monte Carlo SS and just this summer after hitting a pot hole a couple of playlists on the DMS display a error and skip through the track numbers fast. When I reinstalled Music Manager onto a XP machine, the manager only displayed 4 playlists out of 15 i have on the DMS. I am guessing after that bump on the road, it rattled the KEG and corrupted those two playlists on the DMS.