Hi VortechS, thank you for the response. I will reflash the DMS, I think I was at v12.
I can, hand on heart, say there is nothing I am not saying, it would not help you to help me if there was. I am a well seasoned techy in the IT field and very well versed in the problems users cause themselves and support techies when they try to save face. Nope I am one of the "If I cock it up, shame on me" crowd.
I drop my results on here tonight, for any help you can give.
Many thanks
C00lh4nd