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Not all Bit for Bit Copy Software

Started by admin, March 09, 2005, 01:06:19 AM

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is created equal.

There are several bit for bit programs out there, but not all work right.

I have an associate who works in a mill where they have a program on floppy disc which has some sectors scattered throughout which a computer will read as "bad sectors" - but they're not bad - they're some sort of copy protection.  

He said that they have several bit for bit copy utilities, but only one works to correctly beat this system.

Are we absolutely sure that a bit for bit copy (even with something like he's using) won't work?

Can the DD linux utility be used for something like this?

A543

Some of those systems from back in the eighties used physically damaged sectors. If the sector was readable the program aborted.  So if you attempted to copy the program to a good disk, it would no longer work, even with a bit to bit copy.
I once was fortunate enough to have a floppy with a bad sector on the same track and head as one of those copy protected disks. I used it as a target to copy one of those copy protected disks to. I used a low level sector editor to copy the disk and it worked. It was the only copy anyone could get to work.
I have considered that remapping of bad sectors could have something to do with the DMS key. If all Phatnoise drives have a certain sector remapped by design, and the Phatbox code knew how to access the original source sector, then that would be a neat trick to hide some data.

AndyMan

I remember back in the 80's working on Apple][ systems where the copy protection actually changed the way the WHOLE disc was written (apart from Track 0, Sector 0) which changed the drive parameters... that's going back some!